Thursday, December 22, 2005

Pride and Conceit

I have always been confused by how people take some of the things I say as a sign of my "conceit" or pride -- things so random that I many times have no clue that the communication could be construed as me being bragful. Anyway, it does not bother me... it merely amuses me. It's a strange insight into the underlying meanings that people derive out of my communication, based upon the kind of premises they hold for themselves. The point of all this is -- I had decided to move all my scattered works on "Pasha et Jardin" into an integrated story, with its own separate blog. In the process of doing that, I came upon these few lines I wrote that clearly expresses my position on "pride" and "conceit": "Humans, he thought, lacked the simple honesty that these tall buildings portrayed. These tall structures of steel and concrete, of glass and stone stood in naked display of their ornamented pride and utilitarian purpose. There was no hiding of their conceit, nor was there any hint of shame in their function. Pasha wished he could be complete in that way. He wished all humans could atleast have a shred of that innocent pride and frank nakedness." -- from Pasha

6 Comments:

Blogger Semperviva said...

hey! what up!? pax et bonum!

12/22/2005 01:09:00 PM  
Blogger Ergo Sum said...

What's pax et bonum... sounds like latin for peace and somethin else....

12/22/2005 01:51:00 PM  
Blogger S.R. Deardorff said...

groovin'...

but, hey, kwik, back to that previous convo we had goin'--->>>re: freedom vs. human life valued...

(by the way, i'm poor and would like more free resources/links to objectivism if you have any; i ran into the ayn rand institute's site and was quite aroused...hehe)

anyway...here's my worry regarding the placement of "human life" at the top of the value pole...it could easily be interpreted by, say, for example, christians to constitute a validation of their whole belief system/philosophy...

in everyday living, i consider christians harmless creatures; however, when it comes to government, i fear their monopolization of the system and their "well intentioned" attempts to condition human behavior to meet their ends...

human beings cannot exist without existence; everything flows from the first thing, whatever that may be...

the logic goes, loosely, like this:

existence is existence.
existence is good for existence, if existence were bad for existence then existence would cease to exist, or, at very least, would stagnate and cease to evolve; therefore, this is self-evident.

freedom is necessary for existence to exist, if it was not, existence would be enslaved to nothingness, which, in concept and concrete reality, is preposterous.

human life evolved because of the freedom of existence; therefore, without freedom, without freedom of existence, human life would not be possible; in order to value human life, one MUST value freedom AND the freedom of existence; to do otherwise is not only self-defeating, but contrary to the idea of valuing human life.

one cannot value human life without valuing freedom and existence; if one chooses to value human life MORE than freedom and existence, then one can irrationally justify destroying existence and/or enslaving freedom for the sake of human life, which, in the end, destroys human life.

blah blah...again, it's loose; i'm sure you get the idea/concept; and, i'm interested to see where we end up taking this...

peace,

sean

12/23/2005 10:47:00 PM  
Blogger Semperviva said...

word pasha, word! ;) "deeply engaged in water-cooler banter" HAHAHAAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHA

LOL it just hit me... thats funny! :D don't we all love jerry?

12/27/2005 03:30:00 AM  
Blogger Ergo Sum said...

I suggest going to the TOC site... "The Objectivist Center"... while I don't like taking any sides between the Peikovian and Kelley-ist schools (because I have found much reason to integrate the best of both sides)... I would still prefer the general tone and approach of TOC over the ARI.

Having said that, Peikoff and other ARI scholars are amazingly robust in their logic and argumentation. I admire that.

12/27/2005 09:53:00 AM  
Blogger Ergo Sum said...

P.S. Read "The Logical Structure of Objectivism" by David Kelly. It's available for free on the internet... you would need to have Adobe Reader for it, though. It's a whole book.

12/27/2005 09:54:00 AM  

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